[Inschool] Is this listserv alive?

[Adam Williams]

>>We need concrete projects, and access. Most school officials I have talked
>>to are pretty cold about the idea.  But I'm also up in the bitter north
>>among the barbarian hordes,  so maybe you have better luck in the more
>>enlightened south.
>Where IS that famed ennlightened south?  I understand that Mexico
>officially endorses LINUX for its public schools.

Apparently further south than Kzoo?!

>Those cold responses have successfully discouraged me for working hard
>for this project.

Working with the public schools requires a VERY thick skin.  I work with
the FIRST robotics team at Central High in Grand Rapids.  Our first year
was a *PAIN*.  They took forever to approve anything,  facilities were
not available although I'd drive by later and see them dark, unoccupied,
and silent.  We had to find faculty members to attend any official
function for which we got no help from the administration.  A complete
joke.

Then (this being Central High where most of the students, are, er....
challenged) most of the team ended up on the honor roll the next year. 
Lo and behold the glory whores swoop in, including
superintendent/night-hag Patricia Newby herself.  Get's herself on TV
during the FIRST even in GR, etc....  Where is a pointy wooden stake
when you need one?

And now years later, while we have $$,$$$ of software (autocad, etc...)
they have yet to provide us with a single computer/workstation, 
although they promised them to us in the first year.

Not helping these people (who will suck up all the credit like a
battalion of hoovers) doesn't break my heart,  but it REALLY sucks for
any of the students that still have two warm IQ points to rub together.

>>There was rumors of projects, labs setup in schools using old equipment,
>>but I haven't heard anything in quite some time.
>Is this John Bridleman's project?

I think so.  And there is Gettig's project.