From inschool@kalamazoolinux.org Fri Feb 20 12:31:03 2004 From: inschool@kalamazoolinux.org (Ralph M. Deal) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 07:31:03 -0500 Subject: [Inschool] LyX and others Message-ID: <4035FE07.7090107@kzoo.edu> Interesting new listserv formed from SEUL and .... Here is a recent posting that I found quite interesting. LyX looks great for schools (and perhaps for me). I tried installing it in a cygwin on my wife's ME system but some software it needed was not installed. I'm now going to try installing it on RH9. I found Marilyn Hagle's comments useful in general and shall try to get it to some educator friends. Any new school LINUX installations out there? The entire Munich computer system is being converted to LINUX, version yet to be determined but SUSE seems likely (a german corporation and active in getting LINUX started in Munich). I'm going to be in Munich for the next few years and may be able to help schools get teachers ready to use it. Ralph PS: Marilyn, where and at what level do you teach? -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [school-discuss] what pieces of software would you demo to K-12 teachers ? Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 11:05:23 -0600 From: Marilyn Hagle Reply-To: schoolforge-discuss@schoolforge.net To: Hello, I am a K-12 teacher person. I have seen OpenOffice, The Gimp, Moziilla, and all of the Knoppix flavor CDs mentioned. I use the former in class and send the CDs home with the kids. They are wonderful. I also want to mention LyX - which is such a great writing tool and very easy to use. Make sure you bring out a few simple features . . . all of the apps that save as or export to a pdf - teachers like that. Easy web pages created in OO Impress and Mozilla Composer. Also, KWord, KGhostview, and Konqueror all will "print as poster." Teachers will go crazy over that feature too. KDE used to offer this and Gnome still does . . . the dictionary in the taskbar. That is a fabulous tool. For advanced graphics, Blender3D has turned out to be a really exciting apps. Once students master the basic tools, they can create anything. Marilyn >>> tim@whyintheworld.org 02/18/04 9:19 AM >>> Hi, If you had just a brief time in which to demo open source software to a bunch of K-12 teachers...(who were new to the whole OS thing, and not necessarily convinced it was all that great)...the point being to wow them with what OS could do for them, so they want to explore further... ... what pieces of software would you demo? (Again, just briefly, so they get the gist of what it does & how they'd really benefit.) Note #1: Part of the the point is some of their schools might accept donated hardware in the near future, so if the K12 Linux Terminal Server or Linux in general is to be an viable option, there needs to be a lot of attraction to the software that can run on it. Note #2: I've glanced through SEUL/Edu. The case studies are appealing to sys admins more than to teachers, and the application list is not ranked such that I can pick out, say, the 5 most popular. I looked at the reviews area, but the only one that jumped out as a clear winner there was moodle, with several positive reviews. From inschool@kalamazoolinux.org Fri Feb 20 14:10:37 2004 From: inschool@kalamazoolinux.org (Adam Tauno Williams) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 09:10:37 -0500 Subject: [Inschool] LyX and others In-Reply-To: <4035FE07.7090107@kzoo.edu> References: <4035FE07.7090107@kzoo.edu> Message-ID: <1077286237.4036155d8139f@www.mormail.com> > Interesting new listserv formed from SEUL and .... Here is a recent > posting that I found quite interesting. LyX looks great for schools > (and perhaps for me). I tried installing it in a cygwin on my wife's ME > system but some software it needed was not installed. I'm now going to > try installing it on RH9. You can now get M$ UNIX Services for Windows 2000/XP for free. Probably worth checking out if you mean to go further with running traditionally UNIX apps on a Win32 workstation. > I found Marilyn Hagle's comments useful in general and shall try to get > it to some educator friends. > Any new school LINUX installations out there? Not that I'm aware of. > The entire Munich > computer system is being converted to LINUX, version yet to be > determined but SUSE seems likely (a german corporation and active in > getting LINUX started in Munich). I'm going to be in Munich for the > next few years and may be able to help schools get teachers ready to use it. Munich where? Germany? > PS: Marilyn, where and at what level do you teach? In general I'm confused where this thread came from; can someone clarify? From inschool@kalamazoolinux.org Fri Feb 20 22:21:43 2004 From: inschool@kalamazoolinux.org (Ralph M. Deal) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 17:21:43 -0500 Subject: [Inschool] LyX and others In-Reply-To: <1077286237.4036155d8139f@www.mormail.com> References: <4035FE07.7090107@kzoo.edu> <1077286237.4036155d8139f@www.mormail.com> Message-ID: <40368877.4070801@kzoo.edu> Sorry about the confusion on message source, Adam. I wrote the message with a cc to Marilyn Hagle, which I assumed would show in the listserv mailing but it did not. Clear now? Ralph Adam Tauno Williams wrote: > > Munich where? Germany? Yes. Bavaria in particular. Tourist center and center of the rise of the Nazis. And now the note to the teacher sending the original message: >>PS: Marilyn, where and at what level do you teach? Ralph From inschool@kalamazoolinux.org Fri Feb 20 22:26:56 2004 From: inschool@kalamazoolinux.org (Ralph M. Deal) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 17:26:56 -0500 Subject: [Inschool] [Fwd: Re: LyX and others] Message-ID: <403689B0.7050102@kzoo.edu> Here is a response from Marilyn Hagle, teacher & LINUX enthusiast: -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: LyX and others Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 13:04:40 -0600 From: Marilyn Hagle To: Ralph, Thanks for the kind words! I currently teach keyboarding and computer animation at the Grand Prairie High School Ninth Grade Center in Grand Prairie, Texas. This is my sixth year to use Linux in the classroom. I wrote a letter to the editor on Cnet last month. I wanted to say that I can't understand why educators aren't going crazy over Linux and open source software. http://news.com.com/2009-1081_3-5152126.html Hope you can help spread the word! Thanks, Marilyn +++ wish I knew how... Ralph ++++